VFACTS Feb 2025 - Page 3

**DFB FGXR6** · 11-03-2025, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Im looking at a new Outlander ES AWD in diamond white as we speak.

Why?

BENT_8 · 11-03-2025, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Why?

My Wife likes them.

**FTE217** · 11-03-2025, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT1533

What I wonder is who is buying all these RAV4s. They have sold about 90,000 in the last two years yet I hardly see any on the road and I live in a Melbourne suburb which I would think is the RAV4 target market. I remember if there was a new model Falcon and Commodore that after 90,000 sales I would be seeing them everywhere. The RAV must be so generic and bland that they are practically invisible.

By comparison the new/current model Ranger has sold about a third more (125,000) in the last two years and I see them everywhere. I know I have a brand recognition bias, but that RAV4 is a mystery to me!

My Syd travels I see heaps of the fugly things,RAV's.
Amongst the countless SUV/CX5/9's/Kias/Hyundai you name it.
Few more Everests nowadays but nothing OTT compared to Ranger/Hilux and the usual suspects.

**FTE217** · 11-03-2025, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Why?

IF there's 1 brand that has the one the most fugliest looking range its Mitsubishi.
and thats a V FACT hahaha

**FTE217** · 11-03-2025, 03:26 PM

anyway no surprising VFACTS news, sales are going down.
Not unexpected no big deal.
Snakes and ladders been going on for decades.

prydey · 11-03-2025, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpd80

Astounding just how many single occupants in vehicles in the daily commute traffic.

Astounding??

Should I take my wife and kids everywhere I go?

Smoke Pursuit · 11-03-2025, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

My Wife likes them.

You won’t do it… talk is cheap 🫡

BENT_8 · 11-03-2025, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

You won’t do it… talk is cheap 🫡

Signed the contract on an LS AWD this evening actually.
24 plate in runout so getting hard to source particular combo's, 25 plate not due until 3rd qtr.

EBSXR6 · 11-03-2025, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

My Wife likes them.

Happy Wife happy life.

BENT_8 · 11-03-2025, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Happy Wife happy life.

Yep, and Its been the case for over 30yrs, must be doing something right.

jpd80 · 12-03-2025, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prydey

Astounding??

Should I take my wife and kids everywhere I go?

No but some of us used to car pool for many years…….

PooDog · 12-03-2025, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Signed the contract on an LS AWD this evening actually.
24 plate in runout so getting hard to source particular combo's, 25 plate not due until 3rd qtr.

Was it just price that you went for the LS?, next step up better wheels interior, seats etc , models are different over here but I thought the next step up was better value?

BENT_8 · 12-03-2025, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PooDog

Was it just price that you went for the LS?, next step up better wheels interior, seats etc , models are different over here but I thought the next step up was better value?

Not really, from what I read the 20" wheels, whilst a nice wheel, have very little tyre side wall and create quite a harsh ride.
Originally we were looking at the ES AWD in white, preferably white diamond, as we dont need the 3rd row, but with stock in runout and dealers reluctant to swap it was hard to find .examples.

We wanted AWD, she really wanted the 9" screen with sat nav and wireless Android Auto plus wireless charger so the obvious answer was LS, which our dealer sourced as a recent build in white.

PooDog · 12-03-2025, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Not really, from what I read the 20" wheels, whilst a nice wheel, have very little tyre side wall and create quite a harsh ride.
Originally we were looking at the ES AWD in white, preferably white diamond, as we dont need the 3rd row, but with stock in runout and dealers reluctant to swap it was hard to find .examples.

We wanted AWD, she really wanted the 9" screen with sat nav and wireless Android Auto plus wireless charger so the obvious answer was LS, which our dealer sourced as a recent build in white.

OK we don't get the ES, just LS, XLS, VRX, I think you guys get about 5?
With the battery in ours the extra weight smooths out the harshness, actually adds to the handling with the weight down low

I think they're about no 3 or 4 in bestsellers over here, NZ likes Mitsubishi there's about 3x mitsi, s in the top ten, interesting people on here find them ugly, we were quite taken with them first time we saw the ad on TV..... Hope you enjoy it

BENT_8 · 12-03-2025, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PooDog

OK we don't get the ES, just LS, XLS, VRX, I think you guys get about 5?
With the battery in ours the extra weight smooths out the harshness, actually adds to the handling with the weight down low

I think they're about no 3 or 4 in bestsellers over here, NZ likes Mitsubishi there's about 3x mitsi, s in the top ten, interesting people on here find them ugly, we were quite taken with them first time we saw the ad on TV..... Hope you enjoy it

Cheers, I assume our LS would be similarly specced to your XLS then or do you just not get a bare bones (ES)version?
Not sure on the state of your roads over there but ours are terrible on average and getting worse so the 20's would cop a beating unfortunately.

My Wife had the XD ASX which has the same front end styling but seems out of sync with the rest of the car, whereas, the ZM Outlander got the bigger body to match.
She's wanted one since they came out.

PooDog · 12-03-2025, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Cheers, I assume our LS would be similarly specced to your XLS then or do you just not get a bare bones (ES)version?
Not sure on the state of your roads over there but ours are terrible on average and getting worse so the 20's would cop a beating unfortunately.

My Wife had the XD ASX which has the same front end styling but seems out of sync with the rest of the car, whereas, the ZM Outlander got the bigger body to match.
She's wanted one since they came out.

No the LS is the base model here, roads are pretty crappy here too although it seams like the whole of the north islands roads are under construction, with a lot of closures.... The desert rd through the center has been closed for 2 months

They are actually quite a big vehicle inside, comfy on long trips

uranium_death · 12-03-2025, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Happy Wife happy life.

I personally never submit to terrorists.

BENT_8 · 12-03-2025, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PooDog

No the LS is the base model here, roads are pretty crappy here too although it seams like the whole of the north islands roads are under construction, with a lot of closures.... The desert rd through the center has been closed for 2 months

They are actually quite a big vehicle inside, comfy on long trips

Fair enough.

We get ES, LS, Aspire, Exceed, Exceed Tourer and a mid pack Black Edition.
Whilst out shopping today the Wife saw a Black Edition in Diamond Red.
I like that she says..
FWD only I say.
And...
20" whells I say.
And...

Sighs, calls dealer, can you get her a red Black Edition??

Yep, got 1 in stock, shall I draw up a new contract.

Happy Wife, happy life...of coarse.

Black Edition gets gloss black mirrors, grill, under garnishes, wheels, black roof lining, Aspire suade/leather trim, heated seats, leather wheel and shifter, privacy glass, 9" screen and wireless charger, a blend of LS and Aspire really.

**DJM83** · 12-03-2025, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

My Wife likes them.

Good looking car to (looks are subjective also)
We looked at one (Exceed tourer) before buying an Hyundai. Mitsu just felt a little underpowered, but the rest of the car was a winner for us.

PooDog · 12-03-2025, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Fair enough.

We get ES, LS, Aspire, Exceed, Exceed Tourer and a mid pack Black Edition.
Whilst out shopping today the Wife saw a Black Edition in Diamond Red.
I like that she says..
FWD only I say.
And...
20" whells I say.
And...

Sighs, calls dealer, can you get her a red Black Edition??

Yep, got 1 in stock, shall I draw up a new contract.

Happy Wife, happy life...of coarse.

Black Edition gets gloss black mirrors, grill, under garnishes, wheels, black roof lining, Aspire suade/leather trim, heated seats, leather wheel and shifter, privacy glass, 9" screen and wireless charger, a blend of LS and Aspire really.

The red looks nice, just not sure how it will last long term, I wanted the white diamond (metallic) but over here only the VRX comes in that color.... So we went boring white

Yours sounds nice

XR Martin · 12-03-2025, 07:48 PM

Outlander isn't bad, don't like the shifter but otherwise it's decent enough.
Prefer a RAV4 Hybrid though.

Big_Daz · 13-03-2025, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Fair enough.

We get ES, LS, Aspire, Exceed, Exceed Tourer and a mid pack Black Edition.
Whilst out shopping today the Wife saw a Black Edition in Diamond Red.
I like that she says..
FWD only I say.
And...
20" whells I say.
And...

Sighs, calls dealer, can you get her a red Black Edition??

Yep, got 1 in stock, shall I draw up a new contract.

Happy Wife, happy life...of coarse.

Black Edition gets gloss black mirrors, grill, under garnishes, wheels, black roof lining, Aspire suade/leather trim, heated seats, leather wheel and shifter, privacy glass, 9" screen and wireless charger, a blend of LS and Aspire really.

Black Edition is decent buying for the nicer interior without having to step up to Aspire. Very nearly bought the same thing myself in 2023. Realised when I test drove it was CVT.. Big no from me (personal preference) but congrats, Mitsi are never going to class leading but they make well built, solid cars that just work. My grandparent have been buying Mitsi's since the Colt and first gen Pajero in the 80's.. Always been solid vehicles for them...

PooDog · 13-03-2025, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Outlander isn't bad, don't like the shifter but otherwise it's decent enough.
Prefer a RAV4 Hybrid though.

The RAV4 plug in is a good bit of kit mechanically, to me I find it the most hideous SUV out there mainly the squarish guard plastic flares, the interiors not my cup of tea either

Each to their own

My poor XF · Yesterday, 03:52 PM

Not a single car in the top 10 interests me. How times have changed.